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<v ->Welcome to "The Accessible Learning Experience,"</v>

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where we help you turn learning barriers

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into learning opportunities.

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On this episode,

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CAST Technical Assistance specialist, Maggie Pickett,

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is joined by Michelle Schladant and Austin Garilli

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from Step Up AT,

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and Jani Kozlowski

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from the Early Childhood Technical Assistance Center,

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or ECTA.

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ECTA is new to the podcast,

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but you've heard from Michelle and Austin

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on episode seven of our first season,

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and we encourage you to check out that episode

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if you want to learn more about the work of Step Up AT.

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The AEM Center has enjoyed an exciting partnership

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with both Step Up AT and ECTA.

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All three centers are funded

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by the Office of Special Education Programs, or OSEP,

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to improve outcomes for children with disabilities.

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Over the past year,

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the teams collaborated on a workshop series

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to help early childhood education providers

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better understand

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how the use of assistive technology, or AT,

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and accessible education materials, or AEM,

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relates to the successful development

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of infants, toddlers, and preschoolers with disabilities.

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Let's find out how the AEM Center, ECTA, and Step Up AT

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are working together

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to foster inclusive early learning education.

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<v ->Hello, it's so good to have each of you here with us today</v>

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on "The Accessible Learning Experience" podcast.

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We've had the pleasure, the four of us,

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of working together, now, for a little over a year,

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and what a fun year it's been.

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Seriously, it's been one of the biggest pleasures

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of this last year of mine, professionally.

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So Michelle and Austin, you're not new to the podcast,

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and so Jani, around here,

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we like to get to know people's accessibility story,

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how you got to this place in your career,

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what was your journey

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through accessibility and inclusive practices.

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So Michelle, let's start with you.

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How did you find yourself leading the Step Up AT program?

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What's your accessibility story?

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<v ->Well, my accessibility story,</v>

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I'm not gonna go way back when I was a classroom teacher,

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but I will say that as a classroom teacher,

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I was introduced to assistive technology,

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and that's what sparked my passion

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for learning everything I could about assistive technology.

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When I found myself working

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at the University of Miami

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Mailman Center for Child Development,

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I really wanted to improve systems of care

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for children with disabilities,

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specifically in the education system,

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and I went on to get my PhD

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and started providing trainings to other people,

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and that's really what sparked the Step Up AT program,

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was trying to find ways to help support teachers

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in their journey to provide inclusive practices

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through the use of assistive technology,

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and that's what started the Step Up AT Program.

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<v ->Austin, so you work alongside Michelle.</v>

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What's your accessibility story? How did you get here?

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<v ->So, like Michelle,</v>

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my accessibility story starts in the classroom,

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but my path is a little bit different.

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So I taught in the gifted classroom,

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but one of the things,

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one of the things that I do remember,

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I had a student who was struggling,

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and when he finally got his accommodations,

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he finally had that IEP written,

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I don't know that assistive technology

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was given the consideration it should have been,

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and when he came back to my classroom,

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and I was supposed to be providing something for him,

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there was a lack of professional development

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and a lack of communication

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about what exactly I should be doing for him.

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I come to find, later, that there was somebody at the school

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who was supposed to lead me on that journey,

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but there was a lack of communication

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about what needed to be done.

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is to find those places

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where professional development can make a difference.

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<v ->Wonderful; so Jani, now to you.</v>

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You've heard Michelle and Austin's accessibility story.

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Would you mind sharing with us your accessibility story,

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and then how you ended up

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at the Early Childhood Technical Assistance Center

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focused on inclusion?

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I have to say that my accessibility story

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has really come into 3D focus, I think,

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through these new friendships that I have

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with you, and with Michelle, and Austin,

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because my focus has really been

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on inclusion of children with disabilities,

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young children with disabilities.

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I worked as a disability services coordinator

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with Migrant Head Start,

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with the National Center on Early Childhood Development

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Teaching and Learning,

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which is a Head Start national center,

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and then more recently, I've come

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to the Early Childhood Technical Assistance Center

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at Frank Porter Graham Child Development Center

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in Chapel Hill, the University of North Carolina,

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and even wrote a book in 2022, about inclusion,

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for early childhood educators.

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And so this has been an interesting new discovery for me

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in these conversations that we've had together

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about how can accessibility

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foster inclusion.

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So I feel like I'm still on this journey, and learning,

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but it's been pretty fun,

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and I feel like I've had lots of light-bulb moments

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with you all, over the past year.

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<v ->Such powerful stories, thank you for sharing.</v>

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So as I alluded to a little bit ago,

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we've been working together for a year,

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and all of us kind of represent these different centers

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that have been funded by OSEP,

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really focused on assistive technology,

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the provision and consideration of assistive technology

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for our early learners,

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we've got Jani, at the ECTA,

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focused on inclusive practices

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and building these inclusive systems,

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and then we have our work at the AEM Center,

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where we're focused on the gamut of ages

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and providing accessible materials,

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with one of our components really focused on early learning,

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how these three centers can work together and explore

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how AT, AEM, and inclusion can kind of work together.

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a little bit more about that overarching concept

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that we've been focused on?

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that children with and without disabilities benefit

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and in particular, inclusion right from the start,

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alongside children with and without disabilities,

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tend to see much stronger outcomes,

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they get those supports early,

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when they start in the kindergarten or K12 system.

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is thinking about how can we make this clear

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for people across this field

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this very thoughtful, intentional focus

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impactful to the field of early childhood education?

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<v ->The focus on inclusion is so important</v>

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voluntary pre-kindergarten program,

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in their neighborhood, near their home,

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accessible educational materials,

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to ensure that these young learners

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are in inclusive settings,

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and are having the support that they need

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in order to benefit from these naturalistic settings.

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on really important concepts.

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we were really intentional about illustrating

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what those inclusive practices,

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fostered by these accessibility strategies,

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provision of accessible materials,

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what it looks like, what it feels like, what it sounds like

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Why is that a critical piece?

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Why do we choose to start there?

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that everybody gains shared understanding

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of whatever problem it is that you wanna solve,

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we brought together folks with great knowledge

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of assistive technology and AEM

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it just made it that easy

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for Michelle and I to demonstrate authentically

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exactly what our project, our collaboration,

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what they were striving for,

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so we all were able to have that shared understanding

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of what we were going to do,

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and where we're going to go from there.

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<v ->Yeah, absolutely.</v>

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we really focused on this three-tiered instructional model

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Can you tell us more about what that model is,

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where you're serving most of your learners,

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when we were demonstrating our assistive technology,

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we were showing examples of assistive technology

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that could be used across a broad range of learners,

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that might need just a little bit of help,

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and so we demonstrated the use of assistive technology

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of providing support for that middle tier of students.

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and we demonstrated how you could use assistive technology

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to support those students

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that needed more individualized, specific help.

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for those few students who need that very specific help.

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<v ->This was such a key takeaway for so many participants.</v>

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It was like, "Oh, yeah, we do that. Oh, yeah!"

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There were these light-bulb moments

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as we like to say, right?

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But there were some other pretty key takeaways

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that we and our state and local partners captured

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during our time together

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as part of this learning experience.

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Austin, can you kind of maybe

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just share a few of those takeaways with us?

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<v ->Absolutely, Michelle and I like to call them</v>

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the magic three (laughs),

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because there's always three big things

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that you can take away,

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and I think we captured it in our work as well.

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bringing people to the table, right?

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and filling in those knowledge gaps,

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because together, we're stronger,

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we're more powerful with that knowledge.

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I like to think that when we bring those people to the table

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we have a,

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creating a small army

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of believers (laughs) in inclusion, right,

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and we're strengthening them every day.

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so, you know, looking at that knowledge about AEM and AT,

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knowing that that drives policy,

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and then, again, coming together

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to talk about where those gaps are.

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which is that professional development, right,

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because when you are finding those gaps

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that's when the creativity takes place,

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that's when we can get some really creative solutions

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around spreading the good word,

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that's how I like to say it,

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spreading the good word on assistive technology and AIM,

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and really bringing in,

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or getting out those perspectives

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to a greater audience,

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and then putting the money behind it,

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because that's what's going to get us moving,

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is to look for that funding

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and make some of these things a reality.

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our state partners, they really got that.

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had some key takeaways as well,

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and those key takeaways, really,

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are feeding, maybe, our next steps and our excitement

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for the future of this partnership together

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as federally-funded projects and services

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that are being provided by OSEP.

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So Jani, what are some things,

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how are we learning from this

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and taking it forward into the future?

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We were able to learn about each other's systems.

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that there was an accessibility lead in each state,

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and that early childhood leaders

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could reach out to those folks as resources,

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identify lending laboratories,

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and other kinds of resources for families,

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and so because this was new to me,

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I figured it was new to my colleagues, as well,

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in early childhood inclusion,

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and so we connected with the Head Start work group

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on disability services and inclusion,

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so Maggie, and Michelle, and Austin,

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you all came and did a presentation for that work group.

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Michelle and Austin came

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to our inclusion community of practice

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and shared some of the Step Up AT videos,

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and that group was so excited

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to be able to know about those videos

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and use them in professional development going forward,

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and I think we were able to share some of our work

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around the inclusion indicators

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that have hopefully been helpful

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to the work that you all do,

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thinking about accessibility in a broader sense.

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So going forward,

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I hope we can continue those partnership efforts.

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We did a joint presentation

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at the OSEP leadership conference this summer,

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which was a lot of fun,

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and we've been talking about maybe a national webinar

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to share some of our lessons learned

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and how we've been able to crosspollinate our learning

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across the different sectors within our field.

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So I'm excited about these future plans.

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<v ->A lot of really great opportunities lie ahead,</v>

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opportunities that, again,

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we were all aware of our own buckets of opportunities,

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but when we...

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It's that collective intelligence, right?

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When we collaborate and we build together,

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we find new opportunities to make those connections.

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It's been a lot of fun.

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To kind of wrap things up,

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how can people stay in touch with you all,

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again, thinking about that collective intelligence,

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how could people follow you and stay in touch

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and learn learn more

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about the great work that you all do?

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Jani, let's start with you.

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<v ->So I am on LinkedIn,</v>

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so I put that link in the show notes.

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I also have some resources that might be helpful

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in the show notes.

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There's a link to my book, which is called

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"Every Child Can Fly:

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An Early Childhood Educator's Guide to Inclusion,"

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as well as some national resources.

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There is a policy statement on inclusion

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that our membership organizations have put together,

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as well as a joint position statement on inclusion

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from the Departments of Education

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and the Departments of Health and Human Services,

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and those early childhood technical assistance

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inclusion indicators

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that I mentioned

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are also linked in the show notes.

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So, hopefully, those will be helpful.

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<v ->Awesome; Michelle, Austin,</v>

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how can folks stay in touch with you all?

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<v ->So the first thing they should do</v>

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is go to www.stepupat.org.

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That is the hub

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for all the resources that we offer on assistive technology.

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Now, we're a toolkit,

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so, you know, in addition to videos, we have modules,

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and some of those modules can help you

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or people that you know

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right in the thick of things

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coach their own staff, their own teachers

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in assistive technology

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and accessible educational materials.

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But if you are at any walk of life

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and you want to take some of those modules

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and learn a little bit deeper

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about how that plays out in the early childhood classroom,

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all of our materials are free.

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You sign on, but those are open to you.

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We have all sorts of resources, paper resources,

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that you can get electronically at our website as well.

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And you can find us, too.

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We have mentor coaches on our team,

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so if you've got specifics,

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we can pinpoint those for you as well.

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<v ->So many great resources. Thank you all for sharing.</v>

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I'm gonna throw one more in.

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At the AEM center, we have our early childhood synthesis

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of knowledge development findings.

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This synthesis summarizes

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the knowledge development activities

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that inform our critical components for early childhood.

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It's a literature review

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and a few other really insightful pieces of information.

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Check it out at aem.cast.org.

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We'll put the direct link to that resource

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in the show notes.

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Well, thank you all for being here today.

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We appreciate the partnership, continued partnership,

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and opportunities to work together

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to ensure that all children have access

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to equitable learning opportunities.

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Thanks again.

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