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- Welcome to the Accessible
Learning Experience,

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where we help you turn learning barriers

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into learning opportunities.

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We're so excited to welcome
Mark Nichols to the podcast.

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Mark is the Senior Director

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of Universal Design and
Accessible Technologies

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at Virginia Tech,

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and a longtime friend of
the AEM Center and CAST.

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Our conversation starts with Mark

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sharing the personal
experience with accessibility

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that drives everything he does

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as an accessibility professional

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to create more inclusive
learning environments

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for all learners.

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We then discuss the exciting

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Choose Accessible Learning
Materials, or CALM initiative,

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and how Mark is working

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to franchise accessibility on his campus

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and across Virginia's
higher education system.

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Mark also touches on how
the AEM Quality Indicators

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inform the work that he
does at Virginia Tech.

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And stay tuned until
the end for information

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on how you can get access
to the design files

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so that you too can implement

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the CALM initiative on your campus.

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Here then is our conversation
with Mark Nichols.

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Welcome to the podcast, Mark.

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It's so great to have you with us here

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on the Accessible Learning Experience,

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and we've really enjoyed
working with you over the years,

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so I'm really excited to share
what you've been working on

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with our audience.

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So let's go ahead and
get started by sharing

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what inspires your work as an
accessibility professional?

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And I know you've been
in the field for a while,

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so I'm interested in knowing

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what is your accessibility story?

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What drives your work in this field?

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- Yes, a great question,

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and thanks again for the
opportunity to be here.

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So I think probably my biggest inspiration

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was my sister Alison.

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She was born in 1981,

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and she was born with severe and profound

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physical, visual, and
intellectual disabilities

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due to a lack of oxygen at birth.

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And she was truly a medical marvel.

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Doctors had said she wouldn't
live past a couple of years,

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and, you know, she
proved all of them wrong.

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She lived into her early twenties.

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She was extremely tiny.

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Even as like a middle school student,

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she weighed I think 19 pounds,

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and her highest weight
was around 30 pounds.

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And she required, you know, 100% care

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with all self-help and life tasks.

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And she could not make any verbalization,

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she did not have speech,

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so she made a variety of
different types of vocalizations

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to indicate happiness and disapproval

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or pain and things like that.

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And so at a very young
age, my family, you know,

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was a very tight unit.

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You know, growing up
in the early eighties,

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there was a lot of different
unsolicited thoughts

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about life with an individual
with severe disabilities,

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and unsolicited suggestions
around institutionalization

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and things like that.

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And, you know, that was never
considered by my family.

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Alison was a part of our family.

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She attended my sporting events,

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she attended my Scout ceremonies.

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You know, she was an
active part of our family,

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and we never viewed it otherwise.

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And so from a very young age,

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I was very intrigued by
having tools and resources

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that Alison could utilize
specifically for a long time

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just to learn cause and
effect relationships.

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And so, you know, it
really opened up my eyes,

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I would probably say, when
I was five or six, even,

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in helping my parents in
creating assistive technologies

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to help Alison engage at home

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and be active in the
community and in school.

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You know, everything from
homemade switches from Radio Shack

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where we'd get a spatula and an ice bucket

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and a switch module
purchased from Radio Shack

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and hot glue and voila, you know.

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Don't forget the eighth inch
mono plug and the stereo wire,

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but we would create battery adapted toys,

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we'd create switches,

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and it really kind of opened
up my eye to the maker world,

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even really before it was
a thing in the eighties.

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And my first exposure
to communication devices

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was with a device called the Whisper Wolf.

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I never forget that day

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when that device came home with
my sister on her wheelchair.

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And I was like, "Whoa, this is
like a giant Speak & Spell,"

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and overlays and that
voice from that device

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will always remain with me

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because I was just completely
fascinated by that.

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And so, you know, Alison
really inspired me

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to continue to find ways

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of supporting individuals
with disabilities

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that led to my career going
into special education

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and then a postgraduate career
in assistive technology.

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And really, you know, just
my continued motivation

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that, you know, as a society,

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we still have a lot of work to do

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around improving digital accessibility

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and access for individuals
with disabilities.

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And so her needs combined with my passion,

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continued passion for this,

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have really, you know,
led me to the career

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that I'm currently in in higher ed,

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but really got me to the K-12 world

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where I had an opportunity

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to help with assistive technology
needs in the K-12 space

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and work with a fantastic
group of colleagues.

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And then now at the higher ed space

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on the later half of that transition side

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and working with access
to course materials

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and creating accessible environments.

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She was definitely my motivation

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from a very, very early age.

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- What a motivation she was.

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I could just hear the passion
coming through your voice

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as I'm listening to you.

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And really what you're
describing is full inclusion.

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And you started that in your family,

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where she was part of
all of the activities

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that you did as a family.

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And I love how that has inspired you

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to continue to work for
that full inclusion,

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whether you've been working in
K-12 or in higher education,

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because it doesn't stop when
our students leave K-12, right?

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We need to continue to
include them in higher ed

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as they make the transition
to the workforce,

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so I'm so glad that Alison

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was such a great inspiration for you

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and that she continues
to drive your work today.

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So tell us a little bit about
what you do at Virginia Tech,

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bringing it to the current day,

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starting with your inspiration,

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and then what continues to drive your work

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today at Virginia Tech?

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- Well, I have the pleasure
to work at Virginia Tech

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with the Accessible Technologies team.

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So I oversee the team,

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and it's a small team,

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but we are a team who is very passionate

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and very vested in expanding
digital accessibility

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across the multiple
campuses of the university.

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I arrived at Virginia Tech in 2017,

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and during some of my early
conversations with my boss,

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one of the things that
really stood out to me

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in one of those conversations

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was that he used the words
franchising accessibility,

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and that really stuck with me, like,

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"Okay, yes, I understand and I agree

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that accessibility needs
to be a shared commitment.

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And how do we go about building a culture

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where that is the norm?"

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And so that really led my team and I,

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we were in 2018, I remember very vividly,

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we were sitting in our office space

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with a giant whiteboard in front of us,

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and we had the Web Content
Accessibility Guidelines

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pulled up, and we were
talking about, you know,

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what were some of the topic areas

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that faculty were reaching
out to us most frequently

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to get support on, and how
can we tie that into WCAG,

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but on a level that's
relatable to faculty?

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And so that's really where

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one of our most successful
initiatives came about,

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was from that brainstorm, and that's where

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the Choose Accessible Learning Materials

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or the CALM campaigns were developed.

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So these were ways of
mapping some of the work

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specifically to WCAG

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to the needs of our faculty and staff

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that had been reaching out
for consultative support

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or asking questions.

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And these campaigns were a way,

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they were the bite sized ways,

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that faculty could join,

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faculty and staff could join
and learn about why and how

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are those specific topics
important and crucial,

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and understanding that
shared responsibility.

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And our first two campaigns

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were Keep CALM and Caption On

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and Keep CALM and Check Contrast.

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So captioning and contrast were two areas

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we frequently were providing
professional development on,

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or outreach on, or
consultative support on.

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Or we were seeing some really bad examples

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across the university in
these areas, so we said,

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"You know what?

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These campaigns are a way for
us to deliver this message

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in a way that doesn't seem overwhelming,

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that helps to kind of build that capacity

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underlying that franchising
accessibility, right,

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to build awareness, understanding."

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But these campaigns had to provide

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the professional development,

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they had to provide the tools
and the resources necessary

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for scaled improvement in
these respective topic areas.

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And so, you know, it
really was the foundation

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of helping to establish community

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and inspire others here at
all levels of the university.

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And that was key,

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that we were looking
at it from a bottom-up

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and a top-down approach.

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And so this campaign model
has been, I would say,

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tremendously successful
here at Virginia Tech.

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And we have poster files
that have been developed,

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and we have sticker files that we made,

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and honestly, I mean,

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we never really utilized
stickers in the K-12 space,

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so this was a new concept to me,

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but oh my gosh, like,
the power of a sticker.

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I mean, the Keep CALM stickers,

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we had stickers that we passed out

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to students and faculty and staff,

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and, you know, I will never forget our CIO

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coming to me and going,

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"Yeah, I put one of those
stickers on my laptop

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and I was in a high level meeting,

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I don't even remember what meeting it was,

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but people were asking me,

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'Hey, what's this Keep CALM
that's on your laptop?'"

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And so what a perfect promotional
marketing opportunity to,

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you know, like I said, at
all levels of the university,

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to be able to build
capacity in these areas.

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And so, you know, those
campaigns, you know,

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really kind of set the
stage for us as a unit

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to be able to, on a yearly basis,

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add new campaigns on specific topics

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that align with the
needs of the university,

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whether or not they're strategic
needs based on, you know,

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our IT strategic plan or
university strategic plan,

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or if they're just needs that we recognize

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as we're working with faculty and staff

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that these are areas of needed support.

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And so I think we're now
on our sixth campaign.

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This year's campaign was Keep
CALM and Simplify Slides,

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'cause we were seeing an
increase right after COVID

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of slide decks that were slide-uments

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that had a ton of text on them,

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or that had text that was really small,

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or that had, you know,
color contrast was off.

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A variety of different things.

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So we worked with our
accessibility network

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here at Virginia Tech,

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and we got their feedback and opinions,

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and we decided this year
that simplifying slides

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and using the master template

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and updating the master template,

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slide template for the
university to be more accessible

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was the way that we could
provide the tools and resources

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for folks to continue to scale

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in their respective circles of influence.

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And so it's been a really
fun way of, like I said,

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keeping the work around digital
accessibility manageable.

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Because if we approach faculty and we say,

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"Okay, here's the 25
things you need to do,"

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that approach would not go well.

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That would've not worked
here at Virginia Tech.

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So keeping it as a, "Here's one way.

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Do this, here's the resources,

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here's the information, build success.

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And now when you're done with that,

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hop into this other campaign.

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We're here to help you on this journey."

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You know, it's not the destination,

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it's small incremental improvements

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in digital accessibility.

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Yes, legally we have to meet
all of these conditions,

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but we're building in small
increments the capacity

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so that we as a university

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have that franchised approach
to digital accessibility.

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- Wow, I heard so much that I just love.

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I love that idea of franchising
accessibility, right?

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That too often, it is centralized

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and there's one person
who's responsible for it,

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and then that person leaves,
that champion leaves,

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and we haven't created the
infrastructure behind it.

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So you've really thought strategically

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about building it from the ground up

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and then from the top down,

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so I love that idea of franchising.

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I love the branding.

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Accessibility sometimes

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doesn't have the best brand on campus.

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It's all about the legal
mandates and so on.

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So you found a way to really brand it

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as something that is fun and,
you know, that has stickers.

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Hopefully you'll get t-shirts
as well at some point.

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- Yes, we got t-shirts
as well too, yep, uh-uh.

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- So just thinking about how we brand it,

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and I also love the incremental approach.

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Let's take one year at a time

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and it's really about being strategic,

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being careful in how you roll things out

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so that you don't overwhelm people.

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So there's so much great tips
in what you just said, Mark.

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Anything else you recommend

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when it comes to rolling
this out with faculty

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or with department heads
in terms of, you know,

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if there's some resistance
there, what would you recommend?

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- Good question.

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You know, I think it's,

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going back to the focus of starting small,

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where are the pain points in the course?

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You know, we are in inside of
a teaching and learning unit

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that provides instructional
design assistance,

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that provides, you know,
technical support with the LMS,

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with integrations into the LMS,

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with full campus-wide faculty
professional development.

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And so this unit that we are in,

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I would say the way to
connect with faculty

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who may have some resistance,

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and understandably, I mean,

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faculty have so many
demands placed on them.

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I don't care if it's K-12 or higher ed,

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there are so many different
demands on teachers and faculty.

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And so when we do
consultations with faculty,

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and I had the fortunate opportunity

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to hire a Director of
Universal Design for Learning

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this last year,

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and so she has really been helping us

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to have some of these strategic
conversations with faculty

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to identify where are the
pain points in the courses,

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where are the barriers

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that students generally
have common issues with?

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And then how can we look
at supporting those,

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reducing, I should say, those barriers.

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Are there ways that the UDL framework

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or accessible technologies
and accessible materials

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can help with that?

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And so back to your question,
it's starting small.

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I think too often people
perceive accessibility,

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digital accessibility as this monstrous,

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like it's the Mount Everest
of the mountain ranges, right?

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And it doesn't have to be.

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It can be a rolling hill.

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You can build success
in incremental stages

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and celebrate those successes
and share those successes.

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And I think that's a
really important part.

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And I think that's an area
here even at Virginia Tech

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that we're constantly
trying to improve upon,

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that we need to recognize these efforts,

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however small or large that they are.

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And that, you know, based on
the many demands for time,

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that a faculty member
taking the time and effort

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to improve, let's say, a caption track

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for recorded content of a Zoom
recording of a class video,

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you know, that should be recognized

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whether or not it's in their
yearly annual assessment,

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or whether or not it's
part of a bigger story

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that talks about scaled improvement

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of inclusive media across the campus.

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And I think, you know, my team
and my parent organization

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has that responsibility
to be able to understand

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and bring awareness to
the work that's happening

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and all across the university.

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And that's what's so exciting

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is that we've got work happening

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not just in the instructional space,

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but in all of the units
that are responsible

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for the operations of the university,

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from HR to university libraries,

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to comms and marketing teams.

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I mean, it's really neat to see that.

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And folks are adopting best practices

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in digital accessibility,

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and hopping on board
in incremental stages.

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And I think that's the approach.

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And I think, you know, I'm
not reinventing anything here.

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I think Thomas Tobin and
Kirsten Behling have, you know,

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the Plus-One strategy
identified in their book,

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and I love that approach.

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Like, that was like a 'Amen!'

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When I saw that, I'm like,
"Yes, I 100% agree to that."

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You know, that strategy
has really been a way

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that our faculty and staff
have really connected with.

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And so taking that approach,

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even with faculty that are
hesitant, managing a lot,

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start small.

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And we have that conversation
in our consultations, like,

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"Okay, well maybe it's just
adding alt text to your images

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for this course semester.

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You're gonna do that.
That's your first thing.

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And we're gonna provide
you with the training

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and resources and tools
that you need to do that.

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And then from there you reassess

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and you look at where those barriers are

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and you look at the student feedback

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and you figure out where
you're gonna prioritize

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some accessibility efforts next."

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- I love it.

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And shout out to all of those
professionals you mentioned,

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like Thomas Tobin.

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I've definitely been inspired
by that approach as well,

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the Plus-One thinking.

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And I love that you're giving
faculty time to, you know,

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this is not, "You need
to master it in a week.

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We have a whole year, right?

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So you get to learn about it,

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you get to go out and implement it

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over the course of a whole
semester or a whole year,

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and then you get to reflect on it".

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So I really think you're
modeling not just accessibility,

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but you're modeling universal
design for learning, right?

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Because UDL, it's an iterative process

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and you just continue to
reflect and improve over time.

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So I love how you are going
about rolling this out

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and really bringing more people

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into the conversation, as you said,

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addressing those pain points
and celebrating their victories

00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:40.260 align:middle line:84%
and building on those victories,

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and then we bring them
into the conversation.

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So speaking of sort of
coordinating things, right,

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because you mentioned
the number of departments

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that are involved,

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I know that you've looked

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to the AEM Center's Quality Indicators

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for some guidance in the
work that you're doing.

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Can you tell our audience

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how you've incorporated
the Quality Indicators

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for the provision of AEM
in accessible technologies

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at Virginia Tech?

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- Yeah, absolutely.

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The Indicators have been, I would say,

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a foundation element

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into a lot of our work
that we've done here

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with accessible technologies.

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I think we first looked at
the Indicators back in 2018.

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It was kind of around the same time

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that CALM was conceptualized.

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So my team, recently,

00:19:24.510 --> 00:19:26.430 align:middle line:84%
my team and my parent organization

00:19:26.430 --> 00:19:28.650 align:middle line:90%
were relocated underneath
of the provost office,

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but we had at the time been
under the division of IT.

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And so our focus with my team

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is more on universal access
and universal accessibility.

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We have two other teams on campus

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that we work very closely with.

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One is the Services for
Students with Disabilities team,

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which provides accommodation
level support to students.

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And then we have an ADA team

00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.370 align:middle line:90%
that provides accommodation
level assistance

00:19:53.370 --> 00:19:55.170 align:middle line:84%
to faculty and staff.

00:19:55.170 --> 00:19:56.520 align:middle line:84%
So we connected with

00:19:56.520 --> 00:19:59.130 align:middle line:90%
the Services for Students
with Disabilities team.

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We sat down collectively together,

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and we actually reviewed the indicators

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and we looked to identify
areas of opportunity for us

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that we could both, as a combined effort,

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look at helping to improve
digital accessibility.

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And those discussions
really led us to identifying

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where we had some gaps

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as far as being able to
provide timely access

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to accessible educational materials,

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or robust professional development,

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more robust professional
development structures.

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And many of our current
projects/initiatives

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have all sort of stemmed
from that initial review

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of the Indicators and looking
at areas of improvement.

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And I would probably say
one of our biggest areas

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that we've significantly
enhanced since 2018 would be,

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we're looking at Indicator 4

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in providing comprehensive
learning opportunities.

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And so not only the CALM
campaign helps support that,

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but we also developed a grant program,

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an accessibility professional
certification grant program,

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again, all under the premise
of franchising accessibility,

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to build capacity across the university,

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both instructional and
non-instructional faculty and staff,

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and we leveraged

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the International
Association of Accessibility

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certification programs,

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both the CPACC,

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the Certified Professional
Accessibility Core Competency,

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which is a mouthful,

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and the WAS, the Web
Accessibility Specialist,

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and we used these
certifications as the foundation

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to develop a cohort that
folks from Virginia Tech,

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and we've actually extended this cohort

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to other universities

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and colleges across the
Commonwealth of Virginia,

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that would participate in a 11 to 15 week,

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depending on the cohort,

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cohort that meets on a weekly basis.

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And it's not only providing
support to participate,

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the end result, participating
in the certification exam,

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but we integrate all of the best practices

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and resources and tools

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that are available here at Virginia Tech

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as these individuals
go through the cohort.

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So they're getting kind of a snapshot

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of what does digital
accessibility look like

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here at Virginia Tech?

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What are the tools, the best practices?

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Who are the people that
are doing this well,

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that I can connect with
if I've got questions?

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Not just the digital
accessibility, you know,

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the Accessible Technologies
team here at Tech,

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but who are people in
all the respective units

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that are doing this type of work?

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And then the icing on
the cake, if folks want,

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then they can take the certification exam

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and have that international certification

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for both CPACC or WAS.

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But that's really helped us
scale some awareness around UDL,

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around models of disability,

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around, you know, aria-labeling

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for the more intensive developers

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and designers here on campus.

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And it's really been a fantastic journey

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with these programs.

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I think we've had over 125 folks

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participate in our CPACC program,

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and the WAS program is, I think, north of,

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I wanna say around 25 folks
that have participated in that.

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But it's been a really
great way of, again,

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working to build that community,

00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:33.000 align:middle line:90%
that shared understanding
and responsibility.

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And now, you know, we've got folks

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that reach out to these
individuals across the university.

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They're not just coming
to us, which is great.

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They come to us when they get
the really difficult ones,

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and we of course provide
assistance with those, but again,

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digital accessibility is becoming common

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in the daily work of many
individuals across campus.

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- I love what I'm hearing

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and how you've used the
Quality Indicators, right?

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So there's seven Quality Indicators,

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and I'm sure you've reviewed
them all and then focused on,

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this is the one that's gonna
have the biggest impact

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at our university or
our university system.

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And I love how you're using
that fourth Quality Indicator

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to really build capacity and scale,

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because that's the name of the game

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is it can't stay in
your department, right?

00:24:20.430 --> 00:24:23.550 align:middle line:90%
You have to bring additional
people into the fold.

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And I love that those
exams that you mentioned,

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I've taken them,

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and I know that even if
you don't take the exam,

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just preparing for it

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it gonna make you a better professional.

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You're gonna learn things
that you may not see

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on an everyday basis,

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but in preparing for that,
you'll be better able to answer,

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you know, all kinds of
questions that come your way.

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So now people can look not
just to you or your department,

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but they have other people in the system

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that are able to provide support.

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And that's a great story
because that's the goal.

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I think you're reaching your goal

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of franchising accessibility

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with the help of the Quality Indicators,

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and specifically Quality Indicator 4.

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So I encourage everybody

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:04.620 align:middle line:84%
to check out those Quality Indicators.

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They're on the AEM Center
website under the Coordinate tab,

00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:10.590 align:middle line:84%
and there are also critical components

00:25:10.590 --> 00:25:13.470 align:middle line:90%
that take the Quality
Indicators and translate them

00:25:13.470 --> 00:25:17.278 align:middle line:90%
into the specific language
of higher education.

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So definitely encourage everyone,

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and we'll post a link to
the Quality Indicators

00:25:21.600 --> 00:25:24.720 align:middle line:90%
and the critical components
in our show notes.

00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:26.640 align:middle line:84%
So speaking of all this great work

00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.020 align:middle line:84%
that you're doing at Virginia Tech,

00:25:28.020 --> 00:25:30.210 align:middle line:84%
which I love to hear about,

00:25:30.210 --> 00:25:31.650 align:middle line:84%
I'm sure there's some resources

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that you're really proud about.

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Are there any that you'd be
able to share with our audience

00:25:35.850 --> 00:25:37.590 align:middle line:84%
that we could post to the show notes

00:25:37.590 --> 00:25:40.830 align:middle line:90%
that would help them as well
learn more about accessibility

00:25:40.830 --> 00:25:43.530 align:middle line:84%
and how to implement it on their campuses?

00:25:43.530 --> 00:25:44.550 align:middle line:84%
- Yeah, absolutely.

00:25:44.550 --> 00:25:48.330 align:middle line:90%
I mean, that's, you know, as
an educator, lifelong educator,

00:25:48.330 --> 00:25:49.290 align:middle line:84%
that's one of the things I love

00:25:49.290 --> 00:25:51.420 align:middle line:84%
about the assistive technology

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.750 align:middle line:90%
or accessibility fields of
colleagues is that, you know,

00:25:54.750 --> 00:25:57.480 align:middle line:84%
we're very open and open to sharing,

00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:01.470 align:middle line:90%
and I 100% model that
philosophy with our work here.

00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:04.110 align:middle line:84%
I'd probably say that specific files,

00:26:04.110 --> 00:26:07.680 align:middle line:90%
like we have design files
for our CALM campaigns

00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.410 align:middle line:84%
that we've developed for the sticker files

00:26:10.410 --> 00:26:13.440 align:middle line:90%
and the Photoshop poster
files and things like that.

00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.000 align:middle line:84%
Those are files that we've offered

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.030 align:middle line:84%
to other universities and institutions

00:26:18.030 --> 00:26:20.670 align:middle line:90%
that are looking to
establish a similar campaign,

00:26:20.670 --> 00:26:22.890 align:middle line:84%
maybe with a different color scheme.

00:26:22.890 --> 00:26:24.300 align:middle line:84%
I know here in Virginia,

00:26:24.300 --> 00:26:27.180 align:middle line:84%
my colleagues at James Madison University,

00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:28.177 align:middle line:84%
they reached out and they were like,

00:26:28.177 --> 00:26:30.510 align:middle line:90%
"Hey, Mark, hey, we really
wanna use your campaign,

00:26:30.510 --> 00:26:32.070 align:middle line:84%
but we wanna use Keep CALM,"

00:26:32.070 --> 00:26:34.950 align:middle line:84%
or the campaign was gonna be Keep CALM,

00:26:34.950 --> 00:26:37.440 align:middle line:84%
and it was either Use or Do UDL.

00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.690 align:middle line:90%
I can't remember exactly
what their campaign was.

00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:41.813 align:middle line:84%
But they took our files

00:26:41.813 --> 00:26:44.580 align:middle line:84%
and they rebranded with their color scheme

00:26:44.580 --> 00:26:46.453 align:middle line:84%
and were passing out stickers and posters,

00:26:46.453 --> 00:26:47.813 align:middle line:84%
and that's fantastic, right?

00:26:47.813 --> 00:26:51.510 align:middle line:90%
We wanna help improve the
environment for all students,

00:26:51.510 --> 00:26:53.893 align:middle line:84%
so that's probably one tangible resource

00:26:53.893 --> 00:26:57.697 align:middle line:90%
that I'd be happy to share
with folks looking to,

00:26:57.697 --> 00:27:01.560 align:middle line:90%
you know, have something
that can spark conversations

00:27:01.560 --> 00:27:02.670 align:middle line:84%
with those design files.

00:27:02.670 --> 00:27:05.550 align:middle line:90%
We have all of the content
for these campaigns

00:27:05.550 --> 00:27:06.442 align:middle line:84%
on our website,

00:27:06.442 --> 00:27:10.440 align:middle line:90%
and I'd be happy to share
that website with you, Luis,

00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.750 align:middle line:84%
so that everybody can access

00:27:12.750 --> 00:27:16.650 align:middle line:90%
the content that we have
with those campaigns.

00:27:16.650 --> 00:27:20.580 align:middle line:90%
You're welcome to reuse
that content, the language,

00:27:20.580 --> 00:27:23.940 align:middle line:90%
you know, however it can help
in your circles of influence,

00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:26.790 align:middle line:90%
you know, we wanna make
sure to share those

00:27:26.790 --> 00:27:31.260 align:middle line:90%
for the betterment of the
greater educational community.

00:27:31.260 --> 00:27:33.210 align:middle line:84%
And then I'd say anything regarding like,

00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:35.160 align:middle line:84%
the grant program has been one

00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.890 align:middle line:90%
that we have spent a tremendous
amount of time and effort,

00:27:37.890 --> 00:27:40.740 align:middle line:90%
and we're continuously
refining these programs.

00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:45.510 align:middle line:90%
So I don't have a
document per se to share,

00:27:45.510 --> 00:27:47.220 align:middle line:84%
but if anybody is looking at

00:27:47.220 --> 00:27:50.130 align:middle line:90%
establishing professional
development structures

00:27:50.130 --> 00:27:52.350 align:middle line:84%
or wanting to pursue like a grant program,

00:27:52.350 --> 00:27:54.360 align:middle line:84%
a cohort like we've developed here,

00:27:54.360 --> 00:27:56.007 align:middle line:84%
I'm more than willing to chat with anybody

00:27:56.007 --> 00:27:58.110 align:middle line:84%
on what worked for us,

00:27:58.110 --> 00:28:01.230 align:middle line:84%
where we had some bumps along the way,

00:28:01.230 --> 00:28:05.730 align:middle line:90%
how we've, you know, been
able to improve our program

00:28:05.730 --> 00:28:08.520 align:middle line:90%
based on some of those
barriers that we encountered,

00:28:08.520 --> 00:28:10.770 align:middle line:84%
and it's a continuous work in process,

00:28:10.770 --> 00:28:15.210 align:middle line:90%
but I'd be happy to converse
and offer any advice to folks

00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:16.371 align:middle line:84%
looking to establish some sort

00:28:16.371 --> 00:28:20.040 align:middle line:90%
of professional development
or grant program.

00:28:20.040 --> 00:28:21.870 align:middle line:84%
- I definitely agree with you, Mark.

00:28:21.870 --> 00:28:23.400 align:middle line:84%
That's the beauty of our community

00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.090 align:middle line:84%
is that it's so generous and so welcoming.

00:28:27.090 --> 00:28:28.597 align:middle line:84%
You can be someone who doesn't know,

00:28:28.597 --> 00:28:31.230 align:middle line:90%
you know, just knows
the words accessibility,

00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:33.480 align:middle line:84%
and you come into a conversation

00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.940 align:middle line:90%
and people will welcome
you with open arms.

00:28:35.940 --> 00:28:38.850 align:middle line:90%
You know, we all wanna
do good in the world.

00:28:38.850 --> 00:28:41.430 align:middle line:90%
So I really appreciate
you being so generous

00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:42.840 align:middle line:84%
and sharing those resources,

00:28:42.840 --> 00:28:46.080 align:middle line:90%
and we'll make sure that we'll
post them in the show notes,

00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:47.520 align:middle line:84%
or post some links.

00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:49.650 align:middle line:84%
So to wrap up our conversation,

00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:51.780 align:middle line:84%
you mentioned that you are open to people

00:28:51.780 --> 00:28:52.800 align:middle line:84%
reaching out to you,

00:28:52.800 --> 00:28:55.230 align:middle line:84%
and, you know, sharing your knowledge

00:28:55.230 --> 00:28:56.640 align:middle line:84%
about all the wonderful work

00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:57.840 align:middle line:84%
that you're doing at Virginia Tech,

00:28:57.840 --> 00:29:00.930 align:middle line:90%
so what's the best way
to connect with you?

00:29:00.930 --> 00:29:04.200 align:middle line:90%
- I'm gonna show my age
here, but I love email.

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:05.700 align:middle line:84%
Maybe love is not the right word,

00:29:05.700 --> 00:29:08.812 align:middle line:84%
but I am very responsive in email.

00:29:08.812 --> 00:29:12.540 align:middle line:90%
Sometimes I organize
my activities via email

00:29:12.540 --> 00:29:13.890 align:middle line:84%
and using my calendar.

00:29:13.890 --> 00:29:16.644 align:middle line:90%
So email is definitely
one way to reach out.

00:29:16.644 --> 00:29:20.718 align:middle line:84%
I'm very responsive through email.

00:29:20.718 --> 00:29:23.790 align:middle line:90%
I know we'll post my email
address here at the end.

00:29:23.790 --> 00:29:25.080 align:middle line:84%
I'm also on Twitter.

00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:28.260 align:middle line:90%
I'm not a tremendously active
participant on Twitter,

00:29:28.260 --> 00:29:30.360 align:middle line:84%
but if you do contact me through Twitter,

00:29:30.360 --> 00:29:32.250 align:middle line:84%
I will certainly respond through Twitter

00:29:32.250 --> 00:29:36.540 align:middle line:90%
and we'll list my handle on
Twitter here in the show notes.

00:29:36.540 --> 00:29:40.170 align:middle line:90%
And then our main website
for Accessible Technologies,

00:29:40.170 --> 00:29:42.780 align:middle line:84%
it does offer a variety of information

00:29:42.780 --> 00:29:44.676 align:middle line:90%
around some of the other
projects and initiatives

00:29:44.676 --> 00:29:47.790 align:middle line:90%
that we have currently
here at Virginia Tech.

00:29:47.790 --> 00:29:50.160 align:middle line:84%
So, you know, you could contact me

00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:51.934 align:middle line:84%
through the contact section

00:29:51.934 --> 00:29:55.110 align:middle line:84%
of our Accessible Technologies website,

00:29:55.110 --> 00:29:57.510 align:middle line:84%
and we can connect there.

00:29:57.510 --> 00:29:59.580 align:middle line:84%
- Awesome, well, you heard it here.

00:29:59.580 --> 00:30:01.170 align:middle line:84%
You're able to connect with Mark

00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:04.612 align:middle line:90%
and kind of follow their
work at Virginia Tech,

00:30:04.612 --> 00:30:06.810 align:middle line:84%
learn from it,

00:30:06.810 --> 00:30:09.330 align:middle line:90%
take some of their
generously shared resources,

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and then create similar initiatives

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that have that ripple effect.

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And I think that's what
you've been talking about

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with us on this episode,

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is you started small

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and then you started
having these ripple effects

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across campus and then across the system.

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And we started this
conversation with the passion

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that brought you into this work, right?

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The personal connection.

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And that passion has really
driven systemic change

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at Virginia Tech through
your work and through,

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we're just happy to be able to support it

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through the use of the quality indicator.

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So we appreciate the opportunity

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to work with you in that sense.

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So thank you so much, Mark.

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I really appreciated having you here,

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and I know I'm inspired by
the work that you're doing,

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and I'm sure our audience is as well

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once they learn more about it.

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- Well, thank you very much
for the opportunity to be here.

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It was absolutely my pleasure,

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and I look forward to
connecting with your audience

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if they have questions or comments.

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Or if you do take these ideas,

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I love to hear about
ways that other people

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are improving digital accessibility.

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So, you know, let's connect

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in one of the ways that we've
shared for connecting with me,

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'cause I'd love to learn more

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about the work that you're doing
in your areas of influence.

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- Thanks for tuning in to this episode

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and remember, accessibility
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